A Spanish Life - La Marina

Hi Alan, Jane one of the four who run Hillside bar confirmed to me today that the pools were not going to be filled. The owner is supposed to have said that not many peple will visit La Marina this year because of the Olympics. ???

Thats a shame although I can understand why the pool won't be filled. You have the Olympics along with the Euro foot-ball. I think all local businesses will suffer this summer due to the Olympics.
Lets hope the fiesta and jubilee day wil bring a lot of visitors

Intersting as most Villas in the area are nearly fully booked for June July and August. Only a very few have vacent dates. http://www.daydreamvillas.co.uk/la-marina-spain/Rentals/Holidays.htm
Take a look at this page for proof.

At least the other one will and is open. http://www.spain-info.co.uk/La-Marina/Sports-Complex.htm

Try Tony on 689 677 403 for celebration cakes.

The Council have laid on a Jubilee party to take place on the Strip around where Supa Valu is. I think entertainment is being laid on and perhaps a giant screen to watch the Queen on the Barge going along the Thames,People are being ask to dress up in something British from the past or present. A few other things happening as well i believe.Best to pop in to the Tourist Office when you arrive,to see what information they have.Hope you all enjoy your stay

Thankyou Alan, that sounds great, we look forward to supporting the event.
Patricia

Thankyou Eve, i will give him a call.
Patricia

Have a small television for Sale. A Phillips in good working order with remote and instructions.

There was one for sale in the debra charity shop, in the consum area

Hi Peter yes we would love some oranges at SAT. Thank you. Eve

Thanks for the oranges Peter, have sold some already otherwise they will be Orange Marmalade or Chutney. Eve

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why should thousands suffer because of just 6/7 people.

Well the people who have kept quite on the issue might indicate an idea lol

mikeyboy. I think we all know the forum names of the regular complainers regarding noise,But I did notice one ot two names that cropped up were actually having a pop at the council members,and were using the bar noise debate
as a way of getting there political thoughts known,Sort of subliminal thinking.
But the only way to stop this anti bar nonsense is to sign one of the petitions so that no member of local or national council is in doubt that it would be foolish to bow down to the dwindling few who want a ghost town

If the petition is signed is there anything that it can do, or is it just a show of support to show these 6 / 7 people that no matter what we will go ahead with this fiesta. Id be very surprised of this guy gets his stupid wish and the fiesta cancelled.

Is it the residents who are trying to stop the Fiesta on the Consum car park or is it bar owners from other areas ???

And yes, I moan about the bu**er who sings his way home past my house at 2 and 3 am in the morning.

Lighthearted comment to all people who want quiet around the Consume2 area.
I remember reading a story perhaps about 15 years ago.
It was reported in most English national papers.
China was suffering an influx of birds(the feathered kind).they were damaging crops and were making a mess everywhere,they also were very noisy,so the Chinese decided to sort them out,what they supposedly did was ,whenever a bird or birds landed they ran outside banging pots and pans,the birds flew away and landed further along,then people there banged pots and pans,the birds flew away in time the birds got so tired of flying they collasped into the streets and then died or were killed.I dont know if this worked or not.But think if all the bar noise moaners got together with pots and pans and everytime a sound could be heard coming from the bars,they then ran and started banging pots and pans outside the ¨so called noisy bars,the customers inside the bars would insist the owner closed the doors and windows to keep the noise out,the people sitting outside would then rush into the bar as they wouldnt be able to hear anything that was going on inside then the pot bangers could stop and go home until the next lot of bars dared to make a noise,and then they could start all over again.
Result everybody body wins,bar noise becomes a thing of the past,and best of all Shops would open to sell pots and pans to replace the ones damaged in the melee.
Just a last word on the subject,If I was a noise hater,I wouldnt like to try this idea at the fiesta,I dread to think how far a pot handle could go when shoved up your a***.

Only meant to be lighthearted.........but if only we could all just get on with our lives,I wouldnt of had to write this drivel.

Great post Alan! A little light-heartedness is what we need. A little disturbing update though. On Monday night at J's cafe regular quiz, Their Petition signature sign sheet was stolen! It was passed around to the customers that were in for the quiz on a clip-board but the clip-board was returned without the petition sheet. I'm left wondering how much lower can a person be than to steal a support sheet when we are trying to accomplish a positive result for the residents of La Marina. If you are the thief & are reading this, I wish you more misery in your sad existence. Chris & Bev hope that everyone who had signed it please sign the petition again as they have another signature sheet or sign at any other location in the Squre if you wish. Roughly looking so far, we have over 100 signatures so far. If you did not have or remember your N.I.E. please note it & enter it with your signature. Thanks everyone for your support so far!!
Al, from Temptations.

i thought we lived in a democrecy if the council bow down to the wishes of 6 or 7 people against the majority then it is a mokery not a democracy,i have had a sneaky feeling for a little while that it could be bar owners from other areas behind this move,but there i dont suppose the gutless wonders will make there selves known.

Hi anonymous, when you think of the volume of business that the 3 day fiesta must bring to the bars closest to the action, providing much needed income that will help them survive during the economic crisis, it may well be that bar owners from other areas, calle Amsterdam, Sierra de Castilla, or the grey area near Soterin Fereteria, have asked for the council to place the fiesta near to one of these locations. I remember a couple of years ago the 3 day fiesta was 2 days at Consum and 1 day at Sierra Castilla. This way more local bars and restaurants got a slice of the fiesta cake!

glad everything went well at 60's night . well done Eve

Cheers Raotl. Apparently some anonymous person stated they were surprised that I could arrange a night like that and then deleted the comment, why am I not surprised about that.

At last !! some help in La Marina this can only be good, there must be loads of people who need help here. Lets make good use of it

I dont live in Q ...and I still carnt get rid of this 'anonymous label!!!

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thanx Steve...but I have done all that loads of times will try again...!!!

DA Da at last.......got it right !!! Thanx again Steve

This is yet another good reason to live in La Marina,We dont forget anyone,

Would any of the local businesses, bars/cafes etc have some leaflets for Age Concern please.

Linda.

My mother said drop some into the charity shop if you could.

Well said Al, we have had a house on La Marina for 15 years and last years fiesta was brill, the best ever, the year at the market place was a waist of space and money. Have already booked for the Summer again, and my eldest girl is bringing 3 of her friends as she had such a great time. Am over at the weekend so will come in and support you with a glass of wine or two...

Temptations,
Yes that was a long winded comment,But can I be one of the first to congratulate you on it.
It shows the anger you feel (and quite rightly)And your love for La Marina,and Spain.
I applaud your sentiment,and I have backed the Bars from step one,and will do so,It is not because I know any of the owners,But I realise without these bars and restaurants la Marina is dead,I for one will fight to keep it alive,in fact i would be happier if it was even livelier than what it is.
I think that most of the half dozen or so moaners have ceased using this forum for there own gratification,and it seems only two or three at the most are left.It gets tedious telling them how selfish and irresponsible they are,that i just follow there comments with the letters ´,lol´ in case they dont understand it means "laugh out loud"which most people must do everytime they read one of there comments.
The normal people of La Marina must sign this petition to stop the this threat from going ahead.
I also say that if Valencia is worried about what is happening to La Marina,let us tell them to jump in a car,we are not a million miles away,and talk to people who live here and ask them,what they think of La Marina,I will lay odds that after talking to people,they themselves will be buying places here.
To the moaners i say ,you have had your 15 minutes of fame,so grow up get your dignity back and for once enjoy your life,you aint making mine miserable,because i can see you for what you are,and that is a very small pack of nimbys, If you dont like La Marina do as Temptations said,and move,To stop the obvious moan from perhaps one of the moaners,even if you are Spanish,Spain is a big place you aint happy here go somewhere else and do us all a favour
A quick message to all the bars fighting for the futureof La Marina, I hope you have a resounding success,if you do perhaps we could all have a great party in Consum area to celebrate

Temptations who are these 6 or 7 people you accuse of being moaners about the noise. Please name them.

Oh what a long winded wonderful epilogue that was - and yes Eve I think they should be named and shamed - miserable sods. Well said Alan.. They should pack up and move !!! asap

Al, as I said to you before in person, well said. The persons who do not want the fiesta should shut up & move out. I do hope that the fiesta goes head for everyone on the Urb & for get about the persons who do not want it

Well said Al i hope some of these people read this and feel ashamed of themselves. We came to spain to live the spanish life and that included the music which is so much a part of spanish life, good luck and lets hope these people move then we can all get back to enjoying ourselves and living the spainish life

I agree with everything you say there Al. Perhaps to keep things balanced we should have a very small piece of paper in the same locations for the people against the fiesta to sign, to see if they are willing to stand up and be counted as are the people who are in favour of it. I doubt whether you would get one signature on it as they only like to complain against it anonymously.

Eve, the council will not give us their names for obvious reasons. We would love to see them come out & identify themselves but I won't hold my breath..Al

well said Alan

Totally agree

OMG We have our flights to come over just for the fiesta.....I hope one person does not spoil it for thousands of people.

Seeing as we are not allowed to know this guys name or who he is, my comment is... What a wanker... Excuse my language but as Steve has said its a forum for free expression.
If the fiesta didn't happen, it would kill la marina off
once and for all.

Would also like to add this is Spain, the Spanish have been celebrating fiestas for years and years. If this guy is British then I'm sorry I'm ashamed of being British. I couldn't careless about how loud the fiesta is this is Spain and we have to respect the views there way of life and fiestas, not ruin them.

I for one thoroughly enjoyed last years fiesta and hope it goes ahead for the good of La Marina and the extra trade it brings and will make a point of coming to sign with my support. The fact that the complainant is a community president should not add any weight to his argument unless he has the full backing of the whole of his community which is highly unlikely as there are probably more people who like to enjoy themselves than are prepared to prevent others from doing so.

Well written Al. I for one agree with everything you said,I will sign the petition within the next 24 hours,I am sure the majority of people who live around La Marina will do so as well,in fact perhaps the person in queston may be outed,as the only person not to sign any petition.
best of luck to you and the other bar owners.

If there are people out there that cannot cope with just 3 days of a fiesta then I must feel sorry for the miserable beggars. la Marina is considered to be a tourist area and consequently we have much lower Suma Bills than ordinary Towns, for instance you would pay about 3 times more Suma for your property in Almoradi, and on top of that the Fiestas last a whole lot longer and go on all night. So can we not have a little give and take. I will sign the petition willingly.

Well done Al.

I cannot believe some people, you think of spain and you think of fiesta. Its a great way for us brits and other nationals to show we can have fun and feel part of this wonderful country . please lets have our fiesta and just enjoy

If he is so certain of the support of his community why does he not make himself known ,when i moved here just over a year ago i thought i was moving to an area with people who wanted to enjoy life how wrong i was a bunch of moaners.

I think you will actually find most people are here to enjoy themselves and there is probably only about six moaners in La Marina but they are all regular contributers to this forum as there is nothing moaners like to do other than moan. La Marina is a lovely place to live and is full of lovely people in my experience.

Here's a very true story a friend of mine we'll call him Jim has stayed with us a few times over the years. He is moving to Spain in September and asked for some advice so I gave him a few links that he could log on to ie RTN ,& a couple of the forums including this one, he phoned me last week to say is it really as bad as THIS FORUM suggests with noise and people complaining about kids etc. I reminded him he has spent a few holidays over here but that is not a home to stay in and that this area in particular is BRILLIANT a good mix of bars resturaunts a great beach great weather and generally a friendly community so before people post any more derogatory remarks on here think of the image you are creating and the potential damage you are doing. THINK POSITIVE, LIVE THE LIFE, ENJOY THE CLIMATE, BEACHES,BARS, FRIENDSHIP, SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITY yes I know there were a lot of caps there but shout it from the rooftops please.

hi tim its toby that posted that post about moaners there seems to be a group that would moan if they had nothing to moan about everytime i come on this site they have found something new to moan about if moaning was an olympic sport they could moan for england.perhaps we should call this site la marina moaners.

Maybe the fiesta should be held at a different location every year, Consum, Super Valu, Phase one etc etc, that way all the other bar area’s would get a bite of the cherry, not just a select few.

Hope you enjoyed your holiday Golfer.
As you havnt been keeping up to date,arrangements have been made or are being made,for all areas to have some sort of entertainment through the year.
Hope that satisfies you,If not then the only place to have a three day entertainment special,without causing expensive problems,can only be the Consume 2 area,and seeing as this is about the best Bar/restaurant ratio in La Marina,It suits almost everybody,unless of course you want it to have these free shows where it suits the least amount of people

Sorry Alan, I did not read the initial post properly, my fault. I thought “Group Community President” referred to one of the other commercial area’s that had made a complaint.
Ideal location would be a place that allowed all the urb bar owners to up a stall/bar, similar to what you find in other parts of Spain, then again, I also think it’s a pity we don’t have a proper traditional “Spanish fiesta” guess I am toooo old for foam parties etc.
Good holiday, thanks, United Arab Emirates, internet access VERY limited ?

Hi Golfer,
You could be lucky or not depending on your being able to Rock,One of the shows appearing in La Marina on the 7th July in the Market Area.It looks to be six Spanish Rock bands appearing and some of them look definitely heavy metal,also will have beer stall in the area.Sounds like it could be good to go ,or good to go away.
glad you had a good holiday,i spent 19 days in England at the same time you was away and had 19 days of rain,not so good when you suffer from Rheumatiod Arthritis,but a few days in Spain,and feeling so much better

Never been here in August.....what is this fiesta about please?

Well put Alan. We need more of these extra entertainment in La Marina to bring people into our great town. These people who are mourning will be the first to kick up if our business went down the drain, and the price of their property went down hill because La Marina became a ghost town. It is a great place to live , so lets not let a few narrow minded people spoil it for us all.

Simply use the Market area
Its away from everyone but simple for everyone to get to

Grant
as I said earlier on this link,The Council have arranged FREE shows around La Marina,already this year we had the New Year party around the Victoria area,next the queens Jubilee party on the strip,after that the rock concert in the market area and the main fiesta around the car park on Consume2.What is wrong with that,I think at least on this point the Council have been forward thinking and i applaud them for that.They at least realise the importance of businesses in La Marina,which in turn can make la Marina a success,but you and a few others will be complaining next about how much is it putting on your suma,We seem to have a few people on this forum who have shown complete selfishness whose only interest is themselves.Get a life live it and enjoy it and let others do the same.I will agree they are entitled to their point of view,but at a guess a great bigger percentage of people on la Marina want their fiestas,So why dont we just agree not to start another silly "we dont want anything "on La Marina,well for heavens sake, I want what is on offer,because i want people to enjoy living and visiting here.

Grant, I 100% agree.
Simply use the Market area

That way ALL of the bars on the urb, could put up a beer stall.

Golfer the Market area as been tried and it was not as good a success as the consum area.Do all the bar owners have outside bar facilities I think not can they staff them legalley (contracted workers) think not.What is wrong with what the council are doing by having different things on in different areas,as usual a would assume a very small minority wants to spoil things for the majority.
One more thing to Alan no I am not a Troll yes I have been called worse but I will get over it think the kettles calling the pot black

come on its 3 days out of the year, the bars need customers to keep going the fiesta gives them a boost on takings, where will you go for your coffee or the odd night out when they've closed because your upset about 3 days in a year, get a life will you stop complaining and trying to spoil everybody else's fun. ITS 3 DAYS FOR GODS SAKE

lets find a patch of land in the middle of nowhere so if you drive there you cant have a drink if you have a drink you cant drive home we can hold the feista there .lets make it immpossible for buisnesses to make a living so then we can moan that there is nothing here in the way of entertainment .there are house's around the market sq as well .

Alan
I haven't once complained about noise
Just puts a stop to people moaning
Was just an compromise

Also a shame to see a large area only being used for market days.

Would love to have loads of Fiesta's
wonder if we could combine with the Spanish ones ?

Grant,
You are right,it did seem like I had labelled you as one of the noise complainers,and I was wrong,for that i apologise,I believe you thought it was a compromise,but earlier in the same thread,I had pointed out that the Council were arranging for celebrations to be spread around the Urb.and that has to be a step forward.
Yes it is a shame the land used for the market is poorly used,but again what else could go there.It perhaps would be a good thing if people put suggestions on this forum,it may well be that someone has a great idea,but is not talking about it,just imagine if that happened and the council took up the idea,what a great boost that would give to the people of La Marina and to this Forum,

Hi Alan

No probs
Maybe use the market area for Summer Festivals in which will bring more people into the area and boost local economy
Also shut the high street and start a Summer Carnival or weekend event would be brilliant
Has anyone thought of involving the other communities on the Urb too
now that would be cool

i've just read on the la marina info site that there's going to be a rock concert at the market square july 7th [one day only] wonder whose going to complain about that

Looks like you are Anonymous in La Marina
regarding the Rock Concert keep up its already posted above !

Don't think you will get any complaints regards noise from the Market area as it is several hundred meters from the nearest resident’s bedroom, so should not be an issue.

lol

Do we have an update about who complained?

Not at the moment Golfer
But i did hear the bars giving a FREE pair of ear defenders with every drink bought : )

Grant ---- Love it !!!! Could use them when HWMBO starts picking on me.
I love the Fiesta’s in Spain, I do prefer a proper Spanish fiesta, dressing up, parades etc, Not so keen on the foam thing though.
Mind you if I lived in the quad house across the way from Consum I might view the issue a little different.
I still think that the Fiesta location should be rotated every year, or as you yourself said, the market area so as all the bars get an equal crack of the whip. Let every bar put up a stall. Reading posts on this and other forums, licences should not be a problem, as our council tend to turn a blind eye anyway as far as the bars are concerned anyway
I don’t think the Street Party is going to help the bars on Phase 1 that much as people will be taking their own food and drink, and it is not a 60 hour event like the Fiesta. .
Another thought, down by Lidl, loads of parking, noise would not be an issue, easy to get to, taxi drivers would make a bob or two as well, plus would help promote the area of the future.

lol

grant
the comment was about who was going to complain about the concert not that they was a concert. the comments we're all about the moaners on the urb looks like your turning into one of them

Really Anonymous
Thinx you need to read what I had written 2 days a ago.
Keep up Fella !!!

I would say your trying or hoping to find something/someone to moan about this concert

Hi Alan

No probs
Maybe use the market area for Summer Festivals in which will bring more people into the area and boost local economy
Also shut the high street and start a Summer Carnival or weekend event would be brilliant
Has anyone thought of involving the other communities on the Urb too
now that would be cool

Commented Grant in La Marina 2 days ago

Keep up Fella !!!

grant
i welcome any entertainment on the urb i will be going to the concert and the fiesta where ever they decide to have it i hope in consum square as its a boost for the bars there.
I am very near both places and my family come over for the fiesta every year

dear golfer, I guess you must play some very small courses if you think the market area is a few hundred yards from the nearest houses.
personally when i go the market, i park outside houses next to the market.

A bit confused,admit I am not great at Spanish Politics,but I thought Councillors were elected on a public vote.or at least the amount of votes the party gets,converts into Councillors
On reading this I imagine the new councillor is P.P. which makes a council of 16 members,8 of which will be PP.So if they vote for a further councillor that will make 9,therefore they will not need Jeff on there side as they will have overall majority.i.e council of 17 of which 9 will be pp.
Someone on here must understand politics better than me,please explain how this works

Alan

It baffles me. I don't have much of an idea when it comes to politics in Spain but, I understand it's morally wrong to employ another councillor on €2.400 euros a month when people can't even feed there selves, hence all the food collection going on in La Marina / San Fulgencio. Yes the council may be stretched and busy but that can't justify installing / electing a councillor that was not voted for.
Is that illegal in Spain.

Again I copy from Jeffs Blog Re This Subject

May I take this opportunity to clarify what is being said about another Councillor. The number of Councillors remain the same. The Councillor for Fiestas and Social Services and Health, was working part time with Cruz Roja and part time on her council duties. Under Spanish Law it is illegal for a Councillor to occupy two jobs full time and claim full time wages from both. Therefore when the duties required in her role as Councillor started to overwhelm her duties with Cruz Roja, she resigned from Cruz Roja to be able to concentrate fully on her Councillor duties. This in turn has prompted the ruling Council to vote in favor of increasing the wages of the Councillor for Fiestas and Social Services and Health, to fall in line with that of the other full time councillors. This will mean that she will recieve approximately another €900 per month before taxes.
As far as the comment about €500,000 being paid out in council salaries. According to my calculations it is closer to €375,000. It should be remembered that all the Councillors, including the Mayor, took substantial pay cuts when we assumed office.
As far as the allegation that services have been cut, apart from re utilising the vehicle used as an animal ambulance, all services are still in place. Some of those services have been taken over by other companies who are providing the same and in some cases, better services for less money. It is always a priority in these times to get best value for money, therefore if this requires the renegotiation of contracts or new contracts by the Town Hall, then it will be done for the benefit of all.

As sergi the mear cat would say. Simples

Thanks again weejohnten,Please if jeff read the forum,I hope he notices I was trying to protect his job(ha ha).
Next thing is to see if the la marina info,reads this forum if so would he like to comment on jeffs blog remarks,

LOL

Bump........................................

Found this on another website
Bar Ramon - 639 049 732
I think it's the right number.

Thank you sooo much, wont starve now.

Well done nikki, I for one support you.

A lot of people support Nikki and her bar, but why go off on one about being on a list of noise makes, it gives the impression to those who do not know her place that she is guilty.

Well said at least there is one legal bar (so far) that speaks out and respects the need to do and abide by there terms of trading good on you for speaking out Nikki, you deserve every success in these tough times others should take note and then maybe everyone is happy regarding the illegal entertainment etc and stick to there terms of trading so there is room for all to make a living

We are licenced to sell food and dont make a noise when making the food ( unless you count the extractor fan!)

This from Nikki.

You state you are licensed to sell food but there is no mention of entertainment or drinks.
Are you in possession of a licence for music and entertainment?

well said Nikki, see you soon

give it a rest for god's sake

will come back when all this about bars be they legal ,illeagal ,it has been done to death go to the powers that be & bend there ear about it me for one have heard enough.

wel said anonymous,now perhaps you could put a name against any comments you make,sothat we can learn a bit more about you

Hi Nikki,

You still doing your daily specials because we are over on Sat for a holiday?

Just in case Nikki doesnt get chance, yes AJ's are still doing the specials and very nice they are too.