many thanks from councillor Paulino

Congratulations Paulino keep up the good work

To be quite frank Paulino, the only reason the PP took a majority is yet again because of San Fulgencio Village.
La Marina Urb residents really need to now have a hard think about pressuring the PP to split this Urb from San Fulgencio.
The residents on the Urb will never get a fair deal, this falls entirely down to the village.
The mayor who lives in Alicante has no idea what is going on with the Urb,
There are some rough times ahead for the Urb now.
The PIPN took a bigger percentage of the votes than the PSOE yet only gained two seats.
Welcome to a non representational local council.
No trust should be placed in the PP everything possible should now be made to separate La Marina Urb. From the village. It is doable.

I wholeheartedly agree separate La Marina Urb. From the village I bet most on the Urb would agree also. BUT HOW????????????????

Well done Paulinho keep up the good work that PP have been doing for the URB, thank god the people of the URB voted pipin off

No doubt the fallout will go on for a long time but just a thought, i have seen comments how lack of support in the village contributed to the fall of pipn and that the village controls the urb, but here is thought, how many people live on the urb and how many are registered to vote?, how many bothered to vote, looking at the statisitics there were 2,629 votes cast and 3066 abstentions so it seems to me that a lack of support on the urb led to the downfall, with only 442 votes for pipn, it seems that if the people on the urb in general wanted pipn to govern they would have voted. if you are not on the padron and dont register to vote then who is to blame for the results.....just an opinion

Or of course Richie you could also say that PIPN were the only party to increase their percentage of the vote over the 2011 vote. Even though the electorate was officially much smaller this time. I am sure you are aware that many people are saying what you have said, and yes undoubtably complacency is a well known thing, But don't take it away from the PIPN they doubled their vote, the other independent group Got just over half of the 2011 total. also the PIPN got a bigger percentage than the other National Spanish Group. even PP got fewer votes. Percentages are great when you use them properly. At this moment in time PIPN are the second most popular party in San Fulgencio.

that may well be the case alan but in proportion to the amount of residents it is still a minority and the fact of the matter is the decisions will all be down to the ruling party regardless of opposition party popularity. Instead of complaining about lack of support the question should be asked if the residents really wanted change , why didnt they vote??

Ritchie,
When you are on the losing side you look for something positive (as a Fulham supporter, I can assure of this)the only positive for La Marina was that the PIPN doubled their vote and became the second most supported party in San Fulgencio.
You also look at faults with the system, In this case, you vote for a party and you get a percentage of the seats according to the percentage you got in votes as a party. That is quite easy to work out on a level playing field, So why did the winning party poll 1087 votes which got them 7 seats, where as the next three in the voting polled 1154 and only got 5 seats between them,so 1154 votes equate to 5 seats on percentages where as 1087 votes gets you 7 seats using the same percentages. Things like that worry me, and make me feel the playing field isn't level

Isnt it called proportional representation, something people have been calling for in the uk for years which would have meant a large number of UKIP seats in this uk election had it been in force.
There are flaws in every system but this is the spanish way and it would take a lot to change it, but the numbers dont add up to me, im sure there are more than 440 people on the urb...

Not the point Ritchie, which is in proportional representation how can the totals not be proportional, as for the British thing much the same as mine, the loser needs to find something good in the outcome. (did you once hear UKIP moaning about the first past the post system, until they realized it would of benefitted them.)
As for the amount of ex-pats in the Urbs. I have been saying for ages that complacency is an ex pat problem,unfortunately that has not changed, I don't know if it ever will.

Just like to say I received your message regarding an additional bin for our street thanks

Just a simple question. What would the outcome of the election have been with the British way of voting? 13 PP councillors?
Note this is not a criticism the voting system you have in the U.K. I do not care. But I am really glad we do not have that system of voting here in Spain and the rest of Europe.
I agree that to few of the people living here in San Fulgencio voted. That is a shame! One reason can be that many of the immigrants have gone to their summer houses in northern Europe and therefore have missed the chance of voting.
And I do not wish to split San Fulgencio in two. I have moved to Spain because I like the way Spanish people live and the Spanish way of handling things.

Reindeer
You show a complete lack of knowledge of U.K. voting. Just to set you straight San fulgencio would of been split in 13 directions and each area would vote for one person. So unless it was bent it would be almost impossible to get one party retaining all the seats

To go off topic a little i will look forward to the fiesta, be interesting to see how it runs this year

Alan
So the result could be 13 PP councillors after all? Not theoretically impossible. But as you and I know it is never going to happen in Spain

Quite agree if they wont vote what do they expect, but at least the crooks didn't get in

Reindeer.
Anything can happen in Spain.
Where else would 41% of 13 equal 7,
I work out that PP were legally entitled to 5.5 seats which could be raised to 6 as you cant have hjalf a Council seat. So just let it go. unless you can work it out that 41% of 13 can possibly amount to 7

Congratulations Paulinho
To the others that are moaning/complaining it is not all down to the UK expats who should decide who gets into power there are 71 different nationalities on the Padron.
At least as previously stated the corrupt ones didnt get back in

I think that remains to be seen.

Are you insinuating that PP are corrupt, if so you haven't got a clue what's going on. Carlos and Paulinho are so straight, they are for the URB, as for pipin what have they done, not a lot

Alan, ok, 37 % is all you need to get more than 50 % of the seats. Is that a more democratic way of voting? Where? In the U.K. Where else?

reindeer
I never claimed that first past the post was a better way but you said proportional voting wea fair, If so
How can 41% of 13 equate to 7 your turn to answer.If you cant think up a non stupid answer don't bother replying

Alan
I do not know. But I would like to know why the biggest party seems to get an extra. PP in Torrevieja got 37,98 % of the votes and there are 25 councillors and they have got 11. Same as in San Fulgencio. One extra. Rojales PSOE 56,98 % 17 councillors and they got 10. There must be some logical explanation. Unknown to me.

We shall see.

Reinder,
Thanks for your reply, It does seem strange regarding the percentages, but one thing we can both agree on, is that both of us can see an odd seat going to the victors, but neither of us know why.
So if anyone reading this comment knows the answer, put us out of our misery and tell us

I have been asking questions as to how is proportional voting worked out if not by proportions, And the answer is simple peeps, you use a method called the DHondt method. this apparently always favours the political party with the most votes (in other words almost proportional but the winner is given a bonus along the way) hense the reason that the PP are in full control of San Fulgencio, because apparently the the DHondt method is used in Spain. In all fairness ,I was the bloody idiot who loves a challenge so I tried this method and lo and behold after trying my Maths degree to the fullest and not quite finishing the method, I thoughr to myself that this guy DHondt is a bloody idiot, even more the idiots who use this system must have a screw loose.
Of course only my opinion, but when I am bored as sure as eggs is eggs I will finish this method, more than likely put me in the mad house but hey ho who cares

It seems that the party with the most votes gets a bonus so that they can govern effectivly so that they do not have their hands tied all the time.

Sorry John cant see it that way,
I seem to always be told the opposite, in that the Spanish want proportional representation because it almost guarantees that the leading party has to barter to get anything done, and thereby gives the lesser parties a little bite of the cherries.
But as it happens whatever reason we think is right, The PP in San Ful wont give a toss on what is the right reason, or at least not for the next four years