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Music Allowed OUTSIDE or Not ?

ASL Member Founding Member Bericht #4618 Reacties gesloten

Last night we went to the White Swan. It was very nice sitting outside having a meal/drink, BUT Jimmy Mac near enough spent the whole evening inside - it's like a furnace in the bar area. PLUS, wait for this - the Karaoke singers also had to go inside. This is absolutely ridiculous.

How come some of the bars/restaurants can get away with music outside, and others can't, OR are too scared that the police will close them down?

I heard that Jeff had warned off the police to allow the music to be outside until say Midnight (which is quite late enough). The best part though - obviously at the end of the evening when people have had quite a bit to drink, they wish to join in, so the crowd outside The White swan were singing their hearts out (remember Karaoke inside) and you can't even see the person singing. Are the police going to tell the customers they cannot sing after a certain time? What is going to happen with regard to this ???

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If I was a Tourist here I would think that everyone had gone stark staring mad. Inside the bar area where people are being MADE to sing is at about 100c . Time Jeff and the Police and Owners got together and sorted it out LIKE NOW. The season is starting so in a few weeks time will be far too late. Action is needed NOW.

ASL Member Founding Member 2011-07-21

I spoke to Jeff on this subject a short while ago.
He told me that he wanted an open forum with the Police and the Bar Owners to sort out the problem once and for all.So that everybody knew where they stood,but he could not convince me that the one single complaint made against noise by any person would be treated more fairly than it is at present,so being realistic,until someone on the council has the balls to change the rules nothing will change

ASL Member Founding Member 2011-07-21

Alan,
If I remember correctly the new councillors were "sworn in" on 11th June, that is according to my calculations 40 days ago, very nearly 6 weeks.
I would imagine that either you or I could, if we were empowered to do so, convene a meeting between the councillors, the police and bar owners in a maximum of seven days. Incidentaly do the police not follow the instructions of our council/mayor?
Let us forget Jeff, in fairness to the bloke he decides nothing in this community?
If the PP wanted this sorted then they would sort it?
If the PP wanted us to have roads then we would be surrounded by tarmac lorries.
If the PP wanted us to have an animal ambulance we would have one?
Even I, Jeff's strongest critic, is being lenient since it is bocoming obvious as time passes that poor Jeff decides nothing!

ASL Member Founding Member 2011-07-21

That sounds like an excellent idea to me Angelique. Do you think you can arrange this and sort it out once and for all?

ASL Member Founding Member 2011-07-21

Just a lot of Words Sounds like they play for time.
All those singers last night deserve a big Medal.

ASL Member Founding Member 2011-07-21

You have it right there Alan - No one on the council has any balls by the seems of it.

ASL Member Founding Member 2011-07-21

We had a meal in the grey area tonight and then stopped at AJ's on the way home as there was a Karaoke on and Ronnie enjoys singing on the Karaoke, but while he went inside to sing, we all sat outside as there was 9 of us and they had to shut the door because they had had a complaint from a person living over the other side of the road!!!! It was only 9.30pm!!!!!

ASL Member Founding Member 2011-07-21

Not to worry Linda - it looks like Angelique or Alan will sort out this problem -
6 days to go !!

ASL Member Founding Member 2011-07-21

Oh I do hope so Carol, bring back some life into the bars in the grey area especially and bring some more money back onto the urb from the tourists.

ASL Member Founding Member 2011-07-22

Carol
I dont know where or when i said I could sort out the noise in bars problem,All I have done is voice my opinion as to how ludicrous the present situation is.I have been to Jeff about this problem but am realising nothing will be sorted.i have also asked if anyone has been to see the Mayor when he comes to our satellite town hall,so I can judge if it is worth taking time to see him on this subject.
I remember you having a gripe about the same problem,What have you done about it ?or are you willing to do something about it?Or Dont you care how are treated on this subject?Or are you one of the 'we cant do anything ,so let them treat us with contempt brigade?At least I am willing to stand up and be counted

ASL Member Founding Member 2011-07-22

Angelique - this is part of your posting yesterday. By your comment you are referring to you (as Alan):

If I remember correctly the new councillors were "sworn in" on 11th June, that is according to my calculations 40 days ago, very nearly 6 weeks.
I would imagine that either you or I could, if we were empowered to do so, convene a meeting between the councillors, the police and bar owners in a maximum of seven days.

I don't know why your having a bloody go at me all the time ? Yes, of course I would like something done. It affects us all who go out to the restaurants/bars with music.

I would like to point out to you Angelique that myself and Ian work full time running our business - we are very busy people - not retired like you (I presume) and have lots of time on your hands and have time to nit pick all the time and pick fault with people !!

ASL Member Founding Member 2011-07-22

Carol,
Observe the words "IF WE WERE EMPOWERED TO DO SO"
I am certainly not having a go at you at all? If you would be good enough to scroll up to my message you will note that you are not mentioned at all?

ASL Member Founding Member 2011-07-22

Carol
Sorry seem to be at cross purposes,I have never said I would or could sort out the problem regarding noise or music in bars.
On re-reading the comment from Angelique,What was written was a comment from Angelique to me stating that she thought that IF we were empowered to do so ,we would of by now have had that meeting.
The fact they we are NOT empowered leaves us as bystanders.
I hope it was just a mis reading by you that caused you to get upset,and although you specically aimed it at Angelique,in case you also meant it for me.Yes i am retired and yes I can find time to nit pick if i wanted to.
But in case I have for some reason annoyed you,I suggest you re-read some of the comments i have made when i have sided with you,when i felt someone was having a pop at you.Hope that clears any misunderstanding between us.
The main point is that we all believe the present action by the police is too heavy handed and is frightening bar owners into becoming sub servient beings,We need to shout and keep shouting until this council and the police start to listen

ASL Member Founding Member 2011-07-22

WELL SAID Alan.
"The main point is that we all believe the present action by the police is too heavy handed and is frightening bar owners into becoming sub servient beings,We need to shout and keep shouting until this council and the police start to listen."
The Council and Police are doing a great Job of making this whole area look Ridiculous.

ASL Member Founding Member 2011-07-22

I think the general concensus on the problem with music in bars,is generally yes it does need to be sorted and quickly.
I was wondering if it would be possible to go to the new council office en bloc on a morning when the mayor is also in the building and make our protest loudly and vehemently,I am sure that if we can get enough support for an hour (including bar owners and staff),and we invite a few local newspapers along and even a local t.v company,we will at least embarress this council into doing something constructive.
Is anybody out there,willing to give it a try.

ASL Member Founding Member 2011-07-22
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