AN OPEN LETTER TO THE OWNERS OF ASL

Alan, I obviously have to agree with you. I get very concerned about these malicious posts. Even if something is true, it doesn't have to be made public. It's very rare that we know the whole truth about other people's lives unfortunately some people like to believe the worst. I hope the forum can be policed it isn't the friendly place it used to be. Fingers crossed. Mary Catherine xx
Myra, no jokes for a while, get busy woman xxxx

I also agree with Alan and I did contact you some months ago, however the forum is out of control and I am one of the contributors that Alan refers too.However a suggestion you vet review EVERY new members first few posts and delete if necessary. No one has the right to come on this forum or any other for that matter and cause or be the cause of malicious gossip.
La Marina is a great place to live lets have a week of only positive comments this is the fiesta weekend do you think we can get through it without negative comment I doubt it. Lets all get out and enjoy it.

Thanks Mazza and weejohnten,Perhaps a few more people could contribute to this letter to ASL,(for the letter or against,or other suggestions) then perhaps ASL will take some notice of us and arrange some sort of checking of new writers,or malicious gossip

Alan, no lets just humiliate them when they start. Tracing an TCP/IP address doesn't work. You only get down to the service provider without a court order. Its a bit like saying 'I know where that letter has come from because I recognise the Postman'. I think I did contribute to the earlier post, giving my email address and just asking the 'experts' where I was (it was weatherspoons pub in Rochdale)

I can not answer for Steve, but what is needed is a person/persons to volunteer to take this job on. However it would only be a hobby type position. The person would need to be a fairly well educated local person living in the La Marina area. I am positive that there must be several people here who could do it but it needs them to come forward in the first place. We ran it for just over a year when the forum first started, now is the time for others to step up, after all most who live hear hold La Marina in a fairly high regard. So Please stop sitting on your hands,take a little action. & YES IF THE CAP FITS!!!!!!!!

Marco I think Yates Wine bar is a lot better in Rochdale!

No, Yates is like visiting the ward from 'one flew over the cuckoos nest' (on a full moon). Did you come from Rochdale? Its just that I read all this moaning on here and look back to my old town and think how lucky I am to be here

Ian
If my memory serves me right,I seem to remember that when you and carole reigned from assisting in the running of this Forum,I seem to remember Steve saying something to the tune of In future I will do it myself.
In fact around this time a lady wrote on here that she may be interested in the position,But obviously didn't go through with it ot steve dint want her

I have to agree with this Alan, as you know we have been a victim of cyber abuse from a particular new individual on ASL, if I may propose in addition the valid suggestions already made, in particular of new accounts, a 14 day strict vetting of comments, this I feel if monitored correctly will stop cyber abusers just joining this site for the purpose of causing malice & damage to our local community. I believe in freedom of speech, but let's face it even the British media are regulated by Ofcom. ASL is a great site for local information, but it's now grown to a point where it needs to be regulated responsibly, so that local businesses, town hall officials & general public can feel confident that there comments will not be open to abuse by some irresponsible individuals. Steve this is my opinion & the opinion of many of our customers, I hope you can take appropriate action & get people speaking positively about ASL once again.

Hi Marko, sorry I didn't get back to you earlier and yes I did but from Castleton originally.

Good Comment Hogs Head, You actually know whats its like to be crucified and have your living put in danger, by just a few people building up what was a silly rumour, I thought that the action of one or two people was pathetic. Luckily by far the majority of people backed you against the rumour monger (s).What I found that while these people were trying to close you down, was one absolutely vindictive comment about your bar-man, Not only berating him as a person, but personal details were put on here, that have absolutely nothing to do with the fire ,It began looking like everytime the rumour started to look shakey another one was being started.
To the point of the Open Letter I wrote,I have not heard a word from ASL since I made the comment, Although I did notice two other comments asking ASL a question were answered in six and eight minutes after appearing on these pages, Perhaps Steve has an answer for that, but I don't suppose he will tell us what it is.
So in my opinion Things aint gonna get any better, because ASL wants a good gossip to keep up his hits on the web site.
The only alternative is people power, when a possible rumour appears,check if its a newby and if you feel its unwarranted, dont go on site for seven days ,which will slow down the hits on ASL then perhaps they will find a way to get rid of the rumour mongers

Good point Alan, however having met Steve recently when he came to our bar to introduce himself & kindly gave us some beer mats, he came across as a sensible & responsible person, I would hate to think that Steve wouldn't do anything about this, the general feeling from the people out there in La Marina is that ASL could potentially be a big problem to our community unless there is immediate action. Most intelligent people have a low opinion of ASL at the moment & this needs to be addressed quickly & effectively, otherwise I fear the worse for this particular site. Steve once again please listen your members.

In answer to the above comment from Alan, any member needing information as to how the site works will be answered as soon as possible, as was the case.

The people who need to know the truth know the truth.... people wont say nothing because they get accused for being jealous or trying to affect other peoples business etc even if they have evidence. Not every negative comment is a lie or a rumour so don't always be so quick to defend unless you have evidence to support either comment.

itsmemw
Yes you hit the nail on the head "Evident's" however in our case we were being victimised by 1 or maybe 2 individuals who had no evidents to back there comments & we believe they only created an account on ASL purely to cause trouble for our businesses, we believe this needs to be addressed before it effects another business or individual.
Steve,
Thank you for taking an interest we hope that you can come up with a satisfactory answer for everybody.

Steve
I have no intention of going toe to toe with you,I wrote you an open letter six days ago, In that time you have not replied.A simple reply stating you were looking into what was happening on your Forum and as soon as you had sorted out what, if anything you were going to do to correct what was happening ,would of sufficed,Even a thank you for your letter I am looking into it, both easy answers, but as far as I could see, you were ignoring it and hoping it would go away.
I can tell you I normally only ask once, If I feel ignored (as in this case)I normally drop it, On the reckoning, that I did what I thought was correct, i personally had nothing to gain except having these vendettas stopped, and you held the key. This was not the first time a vendetta was carried out on this Forum. Only a few months ago a different kind, was carried out, I asked you to delete the comments, You actually declined to do so almost immediately.
But this is your site to do with as you want, You are not forced to answer anything you don't want to, just be aware that you have lost a lot of regulars, and gained a few hits from people who are only out to spread gossip for their own means

Hogs Head, what a good idea. After 2 weeks it will be old news. Mary Catherine xx

Paul, Jan and Alan
Read your comments above and have the following to say:

Paul and Jan, you do not need to keep answering the rumour mongering low life in here!
You are talking from the strongest possible position you can be in, YOU HAVE ALL OF THE FACTS IN YOUR POSSESSION.
You were good enough when all of this stupidity started with the fire to tell us all, even though there was no need to do so, exactly what had happened, what the position was and of course your very first comments on this and even on previous derogatory comments about yourselves and your business have proven to be correct!

Alan, I think, despite being the nice fellow you are, you have been been somewhat judgemental of others of late? I notice that you have started canvassing views of others and rightly or wrongly it seems that you are trying to take some sort of leading role on this site? Why you are doing this I do not know, leave Steve alone he is more than capable of running this site on his own, is he not?

need to stop idiots like johnnyenglish and in the past, marie, who just have a vendetta against bars / restaurants,
and the Brits.,,and stop them registering under another name.

Peter Horsfield,
I'm sure its a thread drift, but who gives a shit. I worked for Woolworths, in the IT department at Castleton for 28 Years. I went back 6 months ago and the village is just desolate. That's why I always bite back at the moaners on here, because a lot of pensioners back in the UK, are afraid to go out at dark.

I am an avid reader of this site,but I cannot believe what crap is written at times,I use three well know bars on the urb, 1has a big swimming pool 1 is a sports bar the other is in the grey area.
in all my time spent in these bars I have never heard such comments as I do on this site. why is that I wonder. where on earth do you get your rumours from.Now your slagging off ASL as though its their fault. I think there are a lot of sad people out there. nuff said

DAVIESELZ

Just like yourself I have wondered why people have started slagging off ASL? What is it that they have done wrong? This is a Forum, this is where we all air our thoughts opinions and a few of us create rumours somewhat unnecessarily.

I think ASL do an excellent job!

Hi Marko, we used to play football on top of Woolie's roof and then blocked up the drainage holes to fill the ginormous flat roof with rain water. The only up was by the drainpipe! Obviously not health and safety conscious in those days. Happy days.

we used to nick your sweets lol

You swine, you!!!

Friendly Viking,
Thanks for your thoughts on me,It appears that a few people,are doing the same at the moment.
As usual I will give my thoughts,Judgemental I don't quite understand,if you mean,If I think a person is wrong I say so,If I think they are right I say so.Asking people to back me,If you mean The open letter I sent to Steve,yes I quite agree with you,if you had asked why,then the answer would be.That a short time ago a personal vindictive thread went on this Forum,concerning pulling to pieces one Lady,these comments were nasty to say the least.Again I asked Steve to pull the comments,he replied almost immediately rejecting my requesk,due to the fact I was the only one to mention it.As for becoming a leader of some sort,that is purely in your dreams,I would answer "they couldn't afford me"(ha ha).Hope that makes sense to you,Anything else you wish to know about me you are free to ask, cant guarantee you will get the answer you want to hear, but it will e truthful

I some times used to work overnight shifts at woolies. We used to play football with the floating plastic ball on the orange machine in the canteen and then put it back. Never did me any harm, but then again I used to drink coffee.